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there was a rush to judgment and i do think that jill kelley was vilified. but not to blame the victim and i want to preface it by saying not to plame the victim, but she could have saved herself a lot of heart ache and a lot of humiliation. it still boggles my mind that she didn't grant you this interview several months ago. in the absence of her side of the story, the media's going to run with the juicier, more salacious story because that's what sells papers. >> that is terrible advice, we're living in an era where the story will not disappear. so it's in your best interest to get the story out as quickly and as susinctly as possible. >> they couldn't really get any facts on her behalf. >> not to distract from the media here, but i do want to -- they had no know what was going to happen here. once someone's name gets out there, it's a juicy story. for a journalist, too often there's a mentality, where there's smoke, there's fire. >> those e-mails that jill kelly made about blackmails. >> if she were having an illicit affair, why would she be going to the
there was a rush to judgment and i do think that jill kelley was vilified. but not to blame the victim and i want to preface it by saying not to plame the victim, but she could have saved herself a lot of heart ache and a lot of humiliation. it still boggles my mind that she didn't grant you this interview several months ago. in the absence of her side of the story, the media's going to run with the juicier, more salacious story because that's what sells papers. >> that is terrible...
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not only did jill kelley do it. but kind of dangling in the headline, just hike jill kelley, eyes come back dn guess who kirtz would like to get the story from, i did kelly and paula broadwell. and paula you're the big get. don't think oprah, don't think katie couric, think me. >> i have to defend howard, and he's done good journalism. if people have issues with this story, okay. don't smear his whole career, a respected reporter and you can take issue with this, but i don't think his motives are impure. >> jon: point taken. and let's talk about somebody else, manti te'o, the fake girlfriend hoax took a turn this week and more who was behind this hoax and he took his story to katie couric. >> katie, put yourself in my situation, my whole world told me that she died on september 12th. everybody knew that. this girl, who i committed myself to, died on september the 12th. and now, i get a phone call on december 6th saying that she's alive and i'll be put on tv two days later and asked the same question, what would you
not only did jill kelley do it. but kind of dangling in the headline, just hike jill kelley, eyes come back dn guess who kirtz would like to get the story from, i did kelly and paula broadwell. and paula you're the big get. don't think oprah, don't think katie couric, think me. >> i have to defend howard, and he's done good journalism. if people have issues with this story, okay. don't smear his whole career, a respected reporter and you can take issue with this, but i don't think his...
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we'll have more with jim and jill when we come right back. >> we are back with jim and jill kelley. jim, it's very apparent in talking to both of you that if it were not for your faith, the fact that you had really come to this end of yourself in the beginning of sayingly, hey, god still likes me, even though jill's mad at me. it's the faith that has given you guys the platform that otherwise, you never would have made this, right? >> well, i totally agree with you. you know, it's interesting because, like jill said earlier on, neither one of us had faith. we really didn't know which way to turn. when jill came to faith, after our son was diagnosed and we started having our struggles, i saw what was in jill and early on, it was pretty much tearing us apart, the closer jill got to her faith, the farther i got away with it. but i realized i was losing everything i loved, everything i was working for. if i didn't humble myself to admit my faults. here's a guy that everybody looks up to, as far as playing football, i had to realize in my own mind that i had to get on my knees and unders
we'll have more with jim and jill when we come right back. >> we are back with jim and jill kelley. jim, it's very apparent in talking to both of you that if it were not for your faith, the fact that you had really come to this end of yourself in the beginning of sayingly, hey, god still likes me, even though jill's mad at me. it's the faith that has given you guys the platform that otherwise, you never would have made this, right? >> well, i totally agree with you. you know, it's...
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so nice to visit with you. >> yeah, nice to talk to you. >> jim and jill kelley. the book is "etched upon my heart." great read. thank you for joining us. i hope you have a terrific week. now from los angeles. i'm mike huckabee. good night and god
so nice to visit with you. >> yeah, nice to talk to you. >> jim and jill kelley. the book is "etched upon my heart." great read. thank you for joining us. i hope you have a terrific week. now from los angeles. i'm mike huckabee. good night and god
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. >> we are back with jim and jill kelley. jim, it's very apparent in talking to both of you that if it were not for your faith, the fact that you had really come to this end of yourself in the beginning of sayingly, hey, god still likes me, even though jill's mad at me. it's the faith that has given you guys the platform that otherwise, you never would have made this, right? >> well, i totally agree with you. you know, it's interesting because, like jill said earlier on, neither one of us had faith. we really didn't know which way to turn. when jill came to faith, after our son was diagnosed and we started having our struggles, i saw what was in jill and early on, it was pretty much tearing us apart, the closer jill got to her faith, the farther i got away with it. but i realized i was losing everything i loved, everything i was working for. if i didn't humble myself to admit my faults. here's a guy that everybody looks up to, as far as playing football, i had to realize in my own mind that i had to get on my knees and unders
. >> we are back with jim and jill kelley. jim, it's very apparent in talking to both of you that if it were not for your faith, the fact that you had really come to this end of yourself in the beginning of sayingly, hey, god still likes me, even though jill's mad at me. it's the faith that has given you guys the platform that otherwise, you never would have made this, right? >> well, i totally agree with you. you know, it's interesting because, like jill said earlier on, neither...